I’ve missed Jane’s posts, both whatever topics she’s thinking about or doing, and Wiishus adventures. But she and you have been so occupied with real-world and book-related goings-on, its easy to understand why she hasn’t been posting much. Heh, I have been doing other things and not posting much on my own site either.
@Hanneke — In going through things,. cleanup and prep to move (when and where as yet unknown) I came across — a package from you, the last clothes you’d done for my BJD crew. I realized then, I’d never posted picutures I don’t think, or thanked you, and I am…much embarrassed to find it so. I really do apologize. Rgrdless of what’s been going on with me, it was rude and unkind of me, and I should’ve responded, and should’ve known (and done) better.
I will be looking through them, there’s a lot of great, cute stuff there, and it’s just in time for winter aain. One presumes we will have a winter here, but so far, it’s hadly cooled down into fall weather. Sincere best wishes and thanks. The package was a wonderful surprise, to find it again and see all that’s there.
Y’know, if the story were going by real-world time, there’d be a big problem if he weren’t settled in by now, which might figure into the story. His story, and Augie’s and Zeke’s, went on hold last year, but I’d like to pick them back up.
Real-world, my personal situation’s too precarious, money-wise, but I’m going through things to keep or not, in hopes of moving later this year, if possible.
Hah, Robby would be very surprised at a sudden second move in his timeline, which also could add to the story. I will have to give it some thought and outline something for him.
I had a sketchy idea in mind for Augie’s and Zeke’s story, but never was quite satisfied with it. So it would be a good time to re-draft that, since their story didn’t really get started either.
The idea behind the two might be related; I’ll discover that as I sit down with it.
Also, around then, I’d treated myself for (I thought) paying off a large portion or all of something. Then I found it was still ongoing, and was discouraged besides. But slowly, I’ve gotten a couple of things behind the scenes, which may appear around Thanksgiving or Christmas; we’ll see.
I have a costuming idea in mind, but don’t currently have a properly / easily working vector drawing app to draw them out. — However, I also have my eye on a couple of patterns for something in Robby’s size. I don’t know if there is a comparable set in, say, Wiishu’s size, and would need someone (an accomplice!) who can sew, to bring it to life. I may have to sketch it by hand and have someone else work out how that would be as a sweing pattern. — Anyone up for a challenge? (In 18 inch Kids-n-Cats or American Girl/Boy size, or Wiishu’s size or 1/6 YoSD and 1/4 MSD size, which I think are the Vanye and Morgaine dolls’ size.)
That’s the problem with that trope. Our heroes step into their past (or present) and within five minutes, they see something and *Aha!* it must be a dystopian, dysfunctional alternate reality / timeline, and *Aha!* they know how to fix it, nearly always. Even the best such stories have that difficult weak spot.
The troulble is, how would you know, in your present day timeline, the now, that it’s the “wrong” one and needs to be fixed, and how would you then fix it?
Yet I wonder what the next four years will be like, andafter that, and I have to live with the consequences, good or bad or some mix, of what happens around me, because I’m only me, a very mundane and individual and a bit misfit traveler in the flow of time, like most people.
I’m worried. But I’m American. I live here. And I want my country to be a good place, whatever happens, with good relations inside and outside our country.
I don’t really know what to make of it. I’d hoped for a different outcome, and this worries me.
Here I am anyway, and I’ll have to live through the storm or the calm alike.
One stage is over. Now the rubber meets the road, and we’ll have to see what it’s really like.
But yes, it does feel like the timeline shifted. I could swear that bit over there was different yesterday. I thought it was OK whenb I voted. The candidate I voted for did not win. Now I hope things will turn out better, despite how the campaign was.
Sigh. Maybe once I get some sleep, I’ll wake up and find out it was a mere imagining. But likely, I get to live with it as reality.
If anybody sees a passing blue box, a totally radical DeLorean, a sliding wormhole, a crumpled doughnut, a glitchy transporter, or a white pod…please have them make an alternate turn at…uh…some other space-time dimensional coordinates. Doctor, we need help.
But I am glad the campaign is over. That was a bad ‘un.
How about an old-style phone booth with a very strange antenna array?
Everything else, I do agree. Proceeding with all due caution and the fervent hope none of our friends are damaged by the new paradigm.
I’m quite worried that what’s happening in politics is the equivalent of that saying about (business) empires: the first generation builds them, the second maintains them, and the third loses them.
The generation that lived through WW II was adamant about never again, and built world peace (not in the whole world, but they did build the institutions and alliances that have stopped conflicts from going global). But that generation is dying out – my parents at 78 and 80 were children just old enough to remember the fear and hunger. Their children heard enough from their grandparents to feel the importance of guarding against that kind of nationalism and demagoguery, and to work at working together to keep the peace. But those children are seniors now, and for the younger generation the war is too far back to feel relevant anymore, and they forget.
So unscrupulous politicians see their chance to increase their influence by appealing to feelings of dissatisfaction, and pointing people at a target weaker than themselves, instead of trying to solve the systemic problems causing the unrest. Because they “talk the talk” that angry and dissatisfied people want to hear, they can convince millions to vote against their own best interests – which exacerbates the problem, meaning next time around there are more voters disappointed in “the system” who, instead of taking a good hard look at what their own votes or not-voting has made possible (like the growing third-world gulf between haves and have-nots, in a first-world rich country) become ready prey for the next demagogue.
I’m not talking just about Trump, but also our Dutch Geert Wilders, Le Pen in France, Haider in Austria, Brexit to “keep out the foreigners”, etc..
Where is the deep sense of the need to stand together, or we will each fall separately, both at the level of individuals, communities and countries? The pendulum swing towards individualism and rampant capitalism seems to me to have overshot the point of usefulness, and to need to swing back some way towards working together and taking care of each other.
Demonizing one’s opponent and ridiculing any talk along the lines of “No man is an island” as unliberal or unAmerican or oldfashioned is not helpful for finding a way forward, as it makes it very hard to break the trends toward greater inequality. Sometimes it looks to me as if the USA top 1% are as blithely steering towards their very own Bastille Day as the French monarchy was before the Revolution; and I very much hope they come to their senses before it gets to that point. Last night’s results do not give much reason for optimism on that front, if more than half the populace is disaffected enough to knowingly vote in a fascist demagogue in the hope he will shake up the system enough that something may change in their favor, even knowing he’s completely selfcentred and untrustworthy, and part of the 1% rigging the system in their own best interests and against those of every lower and middle income citizen.
I worry.
The only thing I can think of that might make things better is if voters could be educated to think about the consequences of their choices, that a momentary protest vote means such-and-so policies impacting their lives over the next years; and then they’d have to have clear information about the exact policies and the consequences of those policies they’d be voting for. But that would require that the media take their job of informing the people seriously, and do so honestly and in depth. Considering the giant media-conglomerates all focused on making money and supporting their 1% elite owners instead of on providing the checks-and-balances and *informed* (not just entertained) voters that should be their part in a solid democratic system, I’m not holding my breath waiting for that to happen.
I worry, about you in the USA, but also for us in Europe.
The current system isn’t working for many people in many countries. Globalization and technology have changed everything, and they will continue to change everything, more and faster. Society has been functioning with old patterns that are no longer adequate. Perhaps the system needs a major shock in order to break it down before a new and better system can emerge.
I can’t say that I’m sorry to see the back of the Clintons, with all their baggage and slipperiness, and all their connections to corrupt bankers, neocons, the political and business establishment, and the 1%. A Clinton presidency would have meant more of the same.
If Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren had run against Trump, they would probably have won. But the Democratic establishment was just as smug and condescending as the Republican establishment, and both have had a rude awakening.
I think it’s going to be a rough few years for the US and the world until things improve. Trump is spectacularly unqualified to be president. With a Republican Senate and House, he will have huge power.
On the other hand, his bark is probably worse than his bite, and we already know that he is quite comfortable about saying outrageous things and then going back on them later. He will be unable or unwilling to deliver on his promises when it comes down to the practical realities of governing. That may show everyone the need for a new political party, and a new approach.
I don’t share Hanneke’s worries about war. Clinton was more of a warmonger than Trump is, for all her conciliatory talk, and for all his bluster. I think the world has gone beyond serious wars between major nations, because we are all too interconnected now.
I don’t think a Trump presidency will be good for anyone, even Trump supporters, but perhaps it will be a catalyst to a new kind of society.
If Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren had run against Trump, they would probably have won. But the Democratic establishment was just as smug and condescending as the Republican establishment, and both have had a rude awakening.
Speculation without facts: I think they’d have lost by more votes.
Trump said months ago that he was going to let his VP do the day-do-day work: hes sees the President’s job as being like the chair of the board, setting directions but otherwise being Above It All. Ceremonial job, there for state dinners and media coverage, but not actually doing any of the hard work.
I can’t speak for the other states, but in Ohio, the primaries are party specific. When I go to the polls, I have to declare my party affiliation. I’m given a ballot for that party’s candidates and the issues that are presented, such as tax levies. If I choose to declare no party affiliation, I am given a ballot with the issues only, I cannot vote for a candidate. Does that map mean to say that there are more people who would vote Democratic than Republican? I seriously doubt that, as the majority of the state is Republican. It’s the metropolitan areas of Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinnati, etc., that the Democratic Party is a majority. While Bernie Sanders might have won against Hillary, the numbers would seem to take into account only the Democratic votes. I don’t see where the article gives a comparison of the number of votes in the primary in Ohio, since the author didn’t address Ohio. Of course, too, during the primary, there were more than two candidates for the Republican nomination, so the votes were more scattered. In other words, if 5 million Democrats voted, their votes were split between Clinton and Sanders, while if 5 million Republicans voted, their votes were split among 4 or 5 candidates. So saying that Sanders would have gotten more votes in the general election than Trump is speculation. Given one candidate, the Republican voters would be more likely to vote for that candidate since their choices are now limited. Of course, they could either write in or vote for the other party, but that’s a small number. I doubt Sanders would have taken Ohio’s 18 electoral votes.
1) I dare say he had never real-ized what kind of a “hellhole” he’d jumpd into. Probably still doesn’t.
2) Find “Future Shock” and read it. I’m pretty good at this synthesis stuff, that’s what’s going on. It’s not a question of “elite complacency”. There are those who can cope with rapid change, and there are those who can’t. That’s the way people are.
3) “Shocking Truth: 50% of Americans are Below Average!” (seen on a supermarket tabloid’s front page).
Ah, stick around. I know an overtly political conversation in these parts will be short-lived, but you all have to know how refreshing it is to hear intelligent people of goodwill discuss different points of view, no matter the subject.
The premise of Future Shock is that people, individually and culturally, have limited [and variable] abilities to adapt to change, in particular “rapid” change. The book “realizes” that.
The hypothesis, “The duration of Western (and possibly others generally) Civilizations (Empires) is inversely proportional to the rate of information accumulation and speed of dispersal.” mysteriously popped into my mind in college.
That’s what we’ve come to; these days when virtually everything is either instantaneous or takes no longer than days. The rate of change has gotten so great that large numbers of people just can’t cope. (Fundamentalism, ISIS’ caliphate, anyone?) Those who can are pretty much who those who can’t call “the elite”. So social cohesiveness breaks down, and people separate into enclaves, i.e. the internet’s “echo chambers”. But the fact is both groups exist and always will.
That’s what we’ve just seen demonstrated.
Can it be “fixed”? How? I dunno, not a question for an Aspie! 😉 I suspect we’re up against a human limitation. Hey, it turned out “The Four Minute Mile” wasn’t, quite, but there is some limit!
Paul, I don’t understand your reply about this not being about Democrat vs. Republican. I merely pointed out that I believed the map and the article to be inaccurate.
I don’t have the “hooks” to get emotionally drawn into politics. I’m just an “observer”. To me this “Monday Morning Quarterbacking” just perpetuates the divisions that have been building for the last few decades, for as long as we’ve been having respected politicians retiring because, “It’s just gotten too nasty here.”
It’s great to see Jane posting again!
And wow, that’s a seriously lovely moonbed.
I’ve missed Jane’s posts, both whatever topics she’s thinking about or doing, and Wiishus adventures. But she and you have been so occupied with real-world and book-related goings-on, its easy to understand why she hasn’t been posting much. Heh, I have been doing other things and not posting much on my own site either.
@Hanneke — In going through things,. cleanup and prep to move (when and where as yet unknown) I came across — a package from you, the last clothes you’d done for my BJD crew. I realized then, I’d never posted picutures I don’t think, or thanked you, and I am…much embarrassed to find it so. I really do apologize. Rgrdless of what’s been going on with me, it was rude and unkind of me, and I should’ve responded, and should’ve known (and done) better.
I will be looking through them, there’s a lot of great, cute stuff there, and it’s just in time for winter aain. One presumes we will have a winter here, but so far, it’s hadly cooled down into fall weather. Sincere best wishes and thanks. The package was a wonderful surprise, to find it again and see all that’s there.
Waiting on the next installment of Toy Box Tales! Has Robby settled into his new home?
Y’know, if the story were going by real-world time, there’d be a big problem if he weren’t settled in by now, which might figure into the story. His story, and Augie’s and Zeke’s, went on hold last year, but I’d like to pick them back up.
Real-world, my personal situation’s too precarious, money-wise, but I’m going through things to keep or not, in hopes of moving later this year, if possible.
Hah, Robby would be very surprised at a sudden second move in his timeline, which also could add to the story. I will have to give it some thought and outline something for him.
I had a sketchy idea in mind for Augie’s and Zeke’s story, but never was quite satisfied with it. So it would be a good time to re-draft that, since their story didn’t really get started either.
The idea behind the two might be related; I’ll discover that as I sit down with it.
Also, around then, I’d treated myself for (I thought) paying off a large portion or all of something. Then I found it was still ongoing, and was discouraged besides. But slowly, I’ve gotten a couple of things behind the scenes, which may appear around Thanksgiving or Christmas; we’ll see.
I have a costuming idea in mind, but don’t currently have a properly / easily working vector drawing app to draw them out. — However, I also have my eye on a couple of patterns for something in Robby’s size. I don’t know if there is a comparable set in, say, Wiishu’s size, and would need someone (an accomplice!) who can sew, to bring it to life. I may have to sketch it by hand and have someone else work out how that would be as a sweing pattern. — Anyone up for a challenge? (In 18 inch Kids-n-Cats or American Girl/Boy size, or Wiishu’s size or 1/6 YoSD and 1/4 MSD size, which I think are the Vanye and Morgaine dolls’ size.)
I have commended “Future Shock” to you all. It provides a credible explanation for yesterday & last night.
Did I just wake up in a dystopian alternate reality? Has someone altered the timeline?
That’s the problem with that trope. Our heroes step into their past (or present) and within five minutes, they see something and *Aha!* it must be a dystopian, dysfunctional alternate reality / timeline, and *Aha!* they know how to fix it, nearly always. Even the best such stories have that difficult weak spot.
The troulble is, how would you know, in your present day timeline, the now, that it’s the “wrong” one and needs to be fixed, and how would you then fix it?
Yet I wonder what the next four years will be like, andafter that, and I have to live with the consequences, good or bad or some mix, of what happens around me, because I’m only me, a very mundane and individual and a bit misfit traveler in the flow of time, like most people.
I’m worried. But I’m American. I live here. And I want my country to be a good place, whatever happens, with good relations inside and outside our country.
I don’t really know what to make of it. I’d hoped for a different outcome, and this worries me.
Here I am anyway, and I’ll have to live through the storm or the calm alike.
One stage is over. Now the rubber meets the road, and we’ll have to see what it’s really like.
But yes, it does feel like the timeline shifted. I could swear that bit over there was different yesterday. I thought it was OK whenb I voted. The candidate I voted for did not win. Now I hope things will turn out better, despite how the campaign was.
Sigh. Maybe once I get some sleep, I’ll wake up and find out it was a mere imagining. But likely, I get to live with it as reality.
If anybody sees a passing blue box, a totally radical DeLorean, a sliding wormhole, a crumpled doughnut, a glitchy transporter, or a white pod…please have them make an alternate turn at…uh…some other space-time dimensional coordinates. Doctor, we need help.
But I am glad the campaign is over. That was a bad ‘un.
How about an old-style phone booth with a very strange antenna array?
Everything else, I do agree. Proceeding with all due caution and the fervent hope none of our friends are damaged by the new paradigm.
Hah, totally forgot Bill and Ted’s phone booth, and So-Crates. 😉
Whoa, I also left out the winter sled with the spinning wheel at the back, from the original time machine.
I left out Andre Norton’s and (?) Gordon R. Dickson’s time traveler agents too. Tsk.
Love Jane’s photos. I want a bed like that!
As for everything else……AAAARRRGGGHHHH!!!
I’m quite worried that what’s happening in politics is the equivalent of that saying about (business) empires: the first generation builds them, the second maintains them, and the third loses them.
The generation that lived through WW II was adamant about never again, and built world peace (not in the whole world, but they did build the institutions and alliances that have stopped conflicts from going global). But that generation is dying out – my parents at 78 and 80 were children just old enough to remember the fear and hunger. Their children heard enough from their grandparents to feel the importance of guarding against that kind of nationalism and demagoguery, and to work at working together to keep the peace. But those children are seniors now, and for the younger generation the war is too far back to feel relevant anymore, and they forget.
So unscrupulous politicians see their chance to increase their influence by appealing to feelings of dissatisfaction, and pointing people at a target weaker than themselves, instead of trying to solve the systemic problems causing the unrest. Because they “talk the talk” that angry and dissatisfied people want to hear, they can convince millions to vote against their own best interests – which exacerbates the problem, meaning next time around there are more voters disappointed in “the system” who, instead of taking a good hard look at what their own votes or not-voting has made possible (like the growing third-world gulf between haves and have-nots, in a first-world rich country) become ready prey for the next demagogue.
I’m not talking just about Trump, but also our Dutch Geert Wilders, Le Pen in France, Haider in Austria, Brexit to “keep out the foreigners”, etc..
Where is the deep sense of the need to stand together, or we will each fall separately, both at the level of individuals, communities and countries? The pendulum swing towards individualism and rampant capitalism seems to me to have overshot the point of usefulness, and to need to swing back some way towards working together and taking care of each other.
Demonizing one’s opponent and ridiculing any talk along the lines of “No man is an island” as unliberal or unAmerican or oldfashioned is not helpful for finding a way forward, as it makes it very hard to break the trends toward greater inequality. Sometimes it looks to me as if the USA top 1% are as blithely steering towards their very own Bastille Day as the French monarchy was before the Revolution; and I very much hope they come to their senses before it gets to that point. Last night’s results do not give much reason for optimism on that front, if more than half the populace is disaffected enough to knowingly vote in a fascist demagogue in the hope he will shake up the system enough that something may change in their favor, even knowing he’s completely selfcentred and untrustworthy, and part of the 1% rigging the system in their own best interests and against those of every lower and middle income citizen.
I worry.
The only thing I can think of that might make things better is if voters could be educated to think about the consequences of their choices, that a momentary protest vote means such-and-so policies impacting their lives over the next years; and then they’d have to have clear information about the exact policies and the consequences of those policies they’d be voting for. But that would require that the media take their job of informing the people seriously, and do so honestly and in depth. Considering the giant media-conglomerates all focused on making money and supporting their 1% elite owners instead of on providing the checks-and-balances and *informed* (not just entertained) voters that should be their part in a solid democratic system, I’m not holding my breath waiting for that to happen.
I worry, about you in the USA, but also for us in Europe.
The current system isn’t working for many people in many countries. Globalization and technology have changed everything, and they will continue to change everything, more and faster. Society has been functioning with old patterns that are no longer adequate. Perhaps the system needs a major shock in order to break it down before a new and better system can emerge.
I can’t say that I’m sorry to see the back of the Clintons, with all their baggage and slipperiness, and all their connections to corrupt bankers, neocons, the political and business establishment, and the 1%. A Clinton presidency would have meant more of the same.
If Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren had run against Trump, they would probably have won. But the Democratic establishment was just as smug and condescending as the Republican establishment, and both have had a rude awakening.
I think it’s going to be a rough few years for the US and the world until things improve. Trump is spectacularly unqualified to be president. With a Republican Senate and House, he will have huge power.
On the other hand, his bark is probably worse than his bite, and we already know that he is quite comfortable about saying outrageous things and then going back on them later. He will be unable or unwilling to deliver on his promises when it comes down to the practical realities of governing. That may show everyone the need for a new political party, and a new approach.
I don’t share Hanneke’s worries about war. Clinton was more of a warmonger than Trump is, for all her conciliatory talk, and for all his bluster. I think the world has gone beyond serious wars between major nations, because we are all too interconnected now.
I don’t think a Trump presidency will be good for anyone, even Trump supporters, but perhaps it will be a catalyst to a new kind of society.
If Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren had run against Trump, they would probably have won. But the Democratic establishment was just as smug and condescending as the Republican establishment, and both have had a rude awakening.
Speculation without facts: I think they’d have lost by more votes.
Trump said months ago that he was going to let his VP do the day-do-day work: hes sees the President’s job as being like the chair of the board, setting directions but otherwise being Above It All. Ceremonial job, there for state dinners and media coverage, but not actually doing any of the hard work.
@P J Evans – Here are some numbers for you:
http://usuncut.com/politics/bernie-sanders-would-have-crushed-trump/
I can’t speak for the other states, but in Ohio, the primaries are party specific. When I go to the polls, I have to declare my party affiliation. I’m given a ballot for that party’s candidates and the issues that are presented, such as tax levies. If I choose to declare no party affiliation, I am given a ballot with the issues only, I cannot vote for a candidate. Does that map mean to say that there are more people who would vote Democratic than Republican? I seriously doubt that, as the majority of the state is Republican. It’s the metropolitan areas of Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinnati, etc., that the Democratic Party is a majority. While Bernie Sanders might have won against Hillary, the numbers would seem to take into account only the Democratic votes. I don’t see where the article gives a comparison of the number of votes in the primary in Ohio, since the author didn’t address Ohio. Of course, too, during the primary, there were more than two candidates for the Republican nomination, so the votes were more scattered. In other words, if 5 million Democrats voted, their votes were split between Clinton and Sanders, while if 5 million Republicans voted, their votes were split among 4 or 5 candidates. So saying that Sanders would have gotten more votes in the general election than Trump is speculation. Given one candidate, the Republican voters would be more likely to vote for that candidate since their choices are now limited. Of course, they could either write in or vote for the other party, but that’s a small number. I doubt Sanders would have taken Ohio’s 18 electoral votes.
@Joe – This ISN’T a Democrat vs Republican, even political issue! It’s far more fundamental than that!!! (See below)
1) I dare say he had never real-ized what kind of a “hellhole” he’d jumpd into. Probably still doesn’t.
2) Find “Future Shock” and read it. I’m pretty good at this synthesis stuff, that’s what’s going on. It’s not a question of “elite complacency”. There are those who can cope with rapid change, and there are those who can’t. That’s the way people are.
3) “Shocking Truth: 50% of Americans are Below Average!” (seen on a supermarket tabloid’s front page).
“What we do now, white-man?” borrowed from Tonto.
I’ll be back sometime…..
Too late. Canada’s building a wall.
I wasn’t planning to leave the country, Paul…..I’m not the injured party…..
ROFL.
Ah, stick around. I know an overtly political conversation in these parts will be short-lived, but you all have to know how refreshing it is to hear intelligent people of goodwill discuss different points of view, no matter the subject.
The premise of Future Shock is that people, individually and culturally, have limited [and variable] abilities to adapt to change, in particular “rapid” change. The book “realizes” that.
The hypothesis, “The duration of Western (and possibly others generally) Civilizations (Empires) is inversely proportional to the rate of information accumulation and speed of dispersal.” mysteriously popped into my mind in college.
That’s what we’ve come to; these days when virtually everything is either instantaneous or takes no longer than days. The rate of change has gotten so great that large numbers of people just can’t cope. (Fundamentalism, ISIS’ caliphate, anyone?) Those who can are pretty much who those who can’t call “the elite”. So social cohesiveness breaks down, and people separate into enclaves, i.e. the internet’s “echo chambers”. But the fact is both groups exist and always will.
That’s what we’ve just seen demonstrated.
Can it be “fixed”? How? I dunno, not a question for an Aspie! 😉 I suspect we’re up against a human limitation. Hey, it turned out “The Four Minute Mile” wasn’t, quite, but there is some limit!
Paul, I don’t understand your reply about this not being about Democrat vs. Republican. I merely pointed out that I believed the map and the article to be inaccurate.
IMO, simply, all this post election analysis and speculation misses the point entirely.
Okay, just so I understand it’s in your opinion…thank you for clarifying.
I don’t have the “hooks” to get emotionally drawn into politics. I’m just an “observer”. To me this “Monday Morning Quarterbacking” just perpetuates the divisions that have been building for the last few decades, for as long as we’ve been having respected politicians retiring because, “It’s just gotten too nasty here.”
Try this – http://www.ted.com/talks/jonathan_haidt_can_a_divided_america_heal