Thanks CJ. I was thinking I’d heard of them before reading this. It’s one of my favorites and was delighted when I saw it in audio! Snapped it right up.
What do the downers look like? I know they have soft, fine fur and that the females don’t show much when they’re expecting – anything else? Fan art? Concept art?
This is a timeline I worked up for the U/A books back in 2000, modified slightly in 2003, and slightly in 2020.
Note that this is my best guess on many things, and it has not been revised to reflect the most recent U/A novel “Alliance Rising”, set at the very beginning of the Company War.
Also, the initial reason I wrote this was to help people who wanted to read the books in internal chronological order. So I ignored any prologues or epilogues that were at significantly different times from the main events of the book.
2300 AD (Company War officially begins (but some fighting has been going on previously, including the death of Fletcher Neihart, referred to in “Finity’s End”))
2323 “Heavy Time” (Collected in “Devil To the Belt”)
2324 “Hellburner” (Collected in “Devil To the Belt”)
2352-2353 “Downbelow Station”
2354 (Treaty of Pell ends Company War)
2354-2658 “Forty Thousand in Gehenna”
2355?? “Merchanter’s Luck”
2355-2356 “Voyager in Night”
2358? “Rimrunners”
2369? “Finity’s End”
sometime roughly between 2369 and 2380 “Tripoint” (but after the end of “Finity’s End”)
mid-to-late 2300s “The Pride of Chanur”
mid-to-late 2300s + 1-2 years “Chanur’s Venture”
mid-to-late 2300s + 1-2 years “The Kif Strike Back”
mid-to-late 2300s + 1-2 years “Chanur’s Homecoming”
mid-to-late 2300s + 10? years “Chanur’s Legacy”
2404-2423 “Cyteen”
2423-? “Cyteen: Regenesis”
2410? “The Sandman, The Tinman, and The BettyB”
2744? “The Faded Sun Kesrith”
2744? “The Faded Sun Shon’jir”
2744? “The Faded Sun Kutath”
3141 – 3180?? “Serpent’s Reach”
3260? “Angel with the Sword” (“Merovingen Nights” shared world anthologies #1 – #7 cover the next 5 years or so.)
4200?? “Brothers of Earth”
“Very, very far down the timeline” “Hunter of Worlds”
“Wave Without a Shore”, “Cuckoo’s Egg” and “Port Eternity” can’t really be pinned down to a specific time, but probably at least a few centuries after 2400 AD. “The Scapegoat” would also be in this category, AFAIK. (I’ve only read it once, there may be more specific dating details I’ve forgotten.)
The Morgaine novels can be argued to be part of the U/A universe but given the nature of the time travel involved, can’t be dated.
“Gate of Ivrel”
“Well of Shiuan”
“Fires of Azeroth”
“Exiles’ Gate”
Note that the “Foreigner” books are *not* part of the U/A universe.
IMHO, “Hestia” isn’t either.
Hi all. I’ve just finished Alliance Unbound and I have questions, if anyone is inclined to help me out. I’ve always loved CJ’s take on FTL travel in the U/A books. It’s gritty, difficult and sometimes outright dangerous and adds much to the tone of the series. So, with a nod to Mr Einstein, what’s the deal with relativity in this version of FTL. One of the main topics in Alliance Rising and Unbound is FTL routes, pusher routes and duration of voyages for either. It’s mentioned many times that it was expected Galway would be 6-10 years before returning to Alpha from Sol. I haven’t researched as yet the relevant distances between stations but it reads to me, “relative to the observer”, that FTL ships are not exceeding light speed but get close enough for the subjective time dilation effects on the crews “frame of reference” Concerns about Galway crew remaining on Alpha(and ageing normally) getting “out of synch” with the family members on Finity & Galway (time compression).
Would someone point or link me to a previous conversation regarding FTL or care to enlighten me please?
Firstly, it’s a necessary “construct” to make some of our stories plausible.
There have been many speculations about how FTL could be possible. Extra dimensions, allowing warped space, & “branes”, are an active area of, let me call it, “consideration” in advanced physics. After all, LIGO/VIGO has concretely shown us physical space is not rigid (no pun intended, I don’t think). The thing is when one gets into “advanced physics”, much like when one delves into quantum mechanics where nothing works the same as in our macro-world, things get very strange. “String theory”? Fine, particles are vibrational modes of “strings”. What is the “string” stuff? Where are the “strings” vibrating? Not the foggiest idea! This is real-world physics today!
The shortest distance between Sydney and New York isn’t a Great Circle route, but directly through the Earth! Dark Matter (if it truely exists) is weakly interacting with matter, so if we could “shift” into that kind of state, we could go that shorter, faster way, and “pop out” again. Eho knows? So, yeah, let there be FTL.
I’m rereading the Faded Sun and am wondering which other books in the AU universe the mri appear? I’ve been searching but am flummoxed!
That’s really the only one.
Thanks CJ. I was thinking I’d heard of them before reading this. It’s one of my favorites and was delighted when I saw it in audio! Snapped it right up.
What do the downers look like? I know they have soft, fine fur and that the females don’t show much when they’re expecting – anything else? Fan art? Concept art?
Now that Alliance Rising is out, is there a timeframe for releasing the (updated) “Alliance-Union History” on Closed Circle?
This is a timeline I worked up for the U/A books back in 2000, modified slightly in 2003, and slightly in 2020.
Note that this is my best guess on many things, and it has not been revised to reflect the most recent U/A novel “Alliance Rising”, set at the very beginning of the Company War.
Also, the initial reason I wrote this was to help people who wanted to read the books in internal chronological order. So I ignored any prologues or epilogues that were at significantly different times from the main events of the book.
Comments and corrections are welcome.
Other timelines I have seen or stolen from:
The official one here on her website:
http://cherryh.com/www/chrona1.htm
An old fan written timeline of the series:
http://www.solstation.com/cherryh/ref/timeline.html
A different fan timeline: http://www.solstation.com/…/ref/misc/timeline.tharp.html
A different fan timeline:
http://www.solstation.com/cherryh/ref/misc/timeline.tharp.html
2300 AD (Company War officially begins (but some fighting has been going on previously, including the death of Fletcher Neihart, referred to in “Finity’s End”))
2323 “Heavy Time” (Collected in “Devil To the Belt”)
2324 “Hellburner” (Collected in “Devil To the Belt”)
2352-2353 “Downbelow Station”
2354 (Treaty of Pell ends Company War)
2354-2658 “Forty Thousand in Gehenna”
2355?? “Merchanter’s Luck”
2355-2356 “Voyager in Night”
2358? “Rimrunners”
2369? “Finity’s End”
sometime roughly between 2369 and 2380 “Tripoint” (but after the end of “Finity’s End”)
mid-to-late 2300s “The Pride of Chanur”
mid-to-late 2300s + 1-2 years “Chanur’s Venture”
mid-to-late 2300s + 1-2 years “The Kif Strike Back”
mid-to-late 2300s + 1-2 years “Chanur’s Homecoming”
mid-to-late 2300s + 10? years “Chanur’s Legacy”
2404-2423 “Cyteen”
2423-? “Cyteen: Regenesis”
2410? “The Sandman, The Tinman, and The BettyB”
2744? “The Faded Sun Kesrith”
2744? “The Faded Sun Shon’jir”
2744? “The Faded Sun Kutath”
3141 – 3180?? “Serpent’s Reach”
3260? “Angel with the Sword” (“Merovingen Nights” shared world anthologies #1 – #7 cover the next 5 years or so.)
4200?? “Brothers of Earth”
“Very, very far down the timeline” “Hunter of Worlds”
“Wave Without a Shore”, “Cuckoo’s Egg” and “Port Eternity” can’t really be pinned down to a specific time, but probably at least a few centuries after 2400 AD. “The Scapegoat” would also be in this category, AFAIK. (I’ve only read it once, there may be more specific dating details I’ve forgotten.)
The Morgaine novels can be argued to be part of the U/A universe but given the nature of the time travel involved, can’t be dated.
“Gate of Ivrel”
“Well of Shiuan”
“Fires of Azeroth”
“Exiles’ Gate”
Note that the “Foreigner” books are *not* part of the U/A universe.
IMHO, “Hestia” isn’t either.
Hi all. I’ve just finished Alliance Unbound and I have questions, if anyone is inclined to help me out. I’ve always loved CJ’s take on FTL travel in the U/A books. It’s gritty, difficult and sometimes outright dangerous and adds much to the tone of the series. So, with a nod to Mr Einstein, what’s the deal with relativity in this version of FTL. One of the main topics in Alliance Rising and Unbound is FTL routes, pusher routes and duration of voyages for either. It’s mentioned many times that it was expected Galway would be 6-10 years before returning to Alpha from Sol. I haven’t researched as yet the relevant distances between stations but it reads to me, “relative to the observer”, that FTL ships are not exceeding light speed but get close enough for the subjective time dilation effects on the crews “frame of reference” Concerns about Galway crew remaining on Alpha(and ageing normally) getting “out of synch” with the family members on Finity & Galway (time compression).
Would someone point or link me to a previous conversation regarding FTL or care to enlighten me please?
Firstly, it’s a necessary “construct” to make some of our stories plausible.
There have been many speculations about how FTL could be possible. Extra dimensions, allowing warped space, & “branes”, are an active area of, let me call it, “consideration” in advanced physics. After all, LIGO/VIGO has concretely shown us physical space is not rigid (no pun intended, I don’t think). The thing is when one gets into “advanced physics”, much like when one delves into quantum mechanics where nothing works the same as in our macro-world, things get very strange. “String theory”? Fine, particles are vibrational modes of “strings”. What is the “string” stuff? Where are the “strings” vibrating? Not the foggiest idea! This is real-world physics today!
The shortest distance between Sydney and New York isn’t a Great Circle route, but directly through the Earth! Dark Matter (if it truely exists) is weakly interacting with matter, so if we could “shift” into that kind of state, we could go that shorter, faster way, and “pop out” again. Eho knows? So, yeah, let there be FTL.