Just got the news from Betsy.
News: Emergence is going to come out in January instead of April.
by CJ | Aug 1, 2017 | Journal | 41 comments
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Yippee!!!
That many months ahead? Oh, very nice! — Now I feel I need to reread the most recent book.
Amazon is not yet showing the new date, but does bring up Emergence for pre-order when you search for CJ Cherryh.
I suppose it will be a while before Alliance Rising shows up for pre-order, since it still has to go through the first editing pass and doesn’t have a publication date or a cover yet.
Hmm, Regenesis is available for Kindle, but Cyteen (the trilogy omnibus) is still showing only available in paperback, no Kindle ebook edition yet. And Amazon is now styling them as “Digital Books,” rather than Kindle or ebooks.
@BCS, correct release date now showing. Yippeeee!
Great news ! Looking forward to it. I’m in the midst of a Moraine re-read after quite a few years. I’d like to understand better how they fit into the A/U universe — for instance, when were the gates discovered ??
YAY! I know what some of my birthday money is going towards then!
Yay, Hobbes!
Hooroar and a tiger!
I know where some of my Christmas money is going.
Just what we need to brighten-up gloomy old January! I can’t wait.
And pre-ordered (since it’s past the first of the month).
Kobo has changed delivery date to Jan 2, 2018. That means I’ll have time to read it before tax season hits. Great news!
That’s something to look forward to! I had better start rereading the last two or three books, to get ready.
I’m not seeing it on Kobo, as of now.
Maybe I need to give it time to proliferate to The Netherlands; or give the publisher a hint to check the sales settings, see if someone forgot to tick the box for “can be sold to the (non-English) rest of the world”.
wonderful news. now, can someone tell me, does kobo only do the old titles for the UK? I just looked them up – had not heard of them before – and there’s nothing new of CJ’s on the list. would so like to be able to buy the books for my kindle.
I don’t know about Kobo and UK, but was able to pre-order the hard-cover from Amazon.de. The Kindle version is also available.
Regards
Ektus.
I wish I knew the answer to that one. I drop messages into the ether and get no response. I’ll try again.
uk kindle so I can’t get any CJ on it from amazon 🙁
that is, actually, the older books are available on Kindle, same as on Kobo, but no new ones, none of the Foreigner series
@CJ, don’t worry, I’ll look for it again as soon as someone here mentions it’s out. If I still can’t see it then I’ll mail the publisher.
@purplejulian, what I’ve found to be most effective is mailing directly to the publisher. The trick to that is knowing an ebook is out, then finding out who the publisher is. Goodreads (or an author’s site) can help with that – they don’t make books invisible based on geography.
Then search for the publisher online to find a customer service email address (for some, that takes some searching).
If you email to that address, saying you want to buy the book through Kobo or Kindle UK or whatever, you know it exists as an ebook but can’t see it or buy it. Add: Please send this mail on to the person responsible for distributing book X by author Y, as they may have forgotten to tick the box saying this book may be sold to the rest of the (non-English) world.” (Or wherever the case may be, for you: sold in the UK, or Australia & New Zealand).
I sent a mail like that to DAW this week, and got a response back two days later, that they had corrected the issue and the book should be visible within a week to ten days. I don’t often get a response email, but very often after about two-three weeks the book will suddenly become visible, even when I haven’t heard from them.
If you fear that the publisher you’ve found may not have the distribution rights in the UK, you could specifically ask for a response about that. If the answer is no, you could try to find a UK e-publisher on Goodreads, or maybe ask about that on the author’s website. If they are still trying to sell those rights you’re out of luck in the UK.
I don’t quite know how the Kindle checks your location. Maybe if you take it with you when you go on holiday to the continent you could pretend to have moved there, and thus get access to the (almost always included in publisher’s contracts) rights to sell to the rest of the world, making both the UK and US editions available? That would mean being careful when buying one of those editions, that you pick the one from the publisher who uses your version of English…
Buying the Foreigner ebooks from Kobo or elsewhere, downloading them using Adobe Digital Edition to get the whole epub file (pay attention to where exactly ADE puts those files), then importing the epub files into Calibre to convert from epub to mobi, and then mailing them to your Kindle would probably be easier.
thank you for all this great detail Hanneke. I will give DAW a go. I think kindle uk must not have the rights, but perhaps there will be another way. very annoying!
Is there some way USA and Canadian fans could help advocate for our fellow fans in other countries, for print and ebook versions of CJC books? At least for English language versions?
I’ve seen German language and a very few Spanish or French versions of CJC titles when I do periodic searches for CJ Cherryh on Amazon.com in the US. The Spanish and French titles were for the Pride of Chanur and Chanur’s Venture; I don’t recall about The Kif Strike Back or Chanur’s Homecoming or Chanur’s Legacy. I believe Downbelow Station and at least one other title were available in German, maybe others.
I would think DAW or others could partner with UK, EU, and AUS/NZ publishers to make English-language versions available there, if that’s even the problem. The idea that 45+ Foreigner titles and much of a backlist of 20-some other books would not be available at all in the UK from a major author is just…some UK publisher is really missing out on a big sales opportunity! Heh. Likewise for the EU, Australia, and New Zealand. (India as well, with a large English-speaking population along with Hindi and others.)
Well, the rest of the non-English world is mostly covered by a non-exclusive clause in the publisher’s contract, so Europe (with the exeption of the UK) and the rest of the world (sometimes, but not always, with the exeption of Australia & New Zealand) can buy the ebooks from the US and/or UK publisher, if they don’t forget to tick the box that it’s allowed.
Print books can always be ordered from overseas, though if you can’t find a bookstore to do so for you, you’ll have to pay for shipping. So there is no total unavailability for print books on the basis of geographical censorship, as there is for ebooks (thanks to Walt Disney and Hollywood, who wanted to protect their staggered distribution system).
The trouble starts when an author’s agent expects to be able to sell the rights to the book separately in the US, UK and Australia. If they don’t expect publishers in Australia to be interested, the rights to sell there may be lumped in with the UK or US rights, which is why Australia sometimes can and sometimes can’t buy the US/UK ebooks.
If the agent doesn’t expect any interest from overseas, the first publisher may get the world-wide rights to publish the book in English – then everyone can buy it everywhere.
If the US publisher has bought the rights to the US (including non-exclusive rest of the world except UK), but even after the agent has shopped it around no UK publisher is interested in buying the UK distribution rights – that is when you get the real problem. The book release dates in US and UK will not just be different, it will not be released at all in the UK – and due to the limitations on the first publisher’s contract, and to US copyright law saying that with digital books, as with films, the point of sale is where the buyer lives and not where the seller is located (to stop people in Asia and Europe from buying DVDs before the movie studios got around to distribution it to theatres in those areas), the people who live in the UK will be unable to buy the ebook at all.
One thing would solve this: allowing ebook sales to be counted as happening at the ebook-sellers location, regardless of where the buyer lives; exactly the way it is done for paper books. But apparently, fixing US copyright law to allow this (while keeping the protections for the Disney/Hollywood distribution systems in place) is not something they feel the need to try.
It works the other way around too: English authors selling the UK rights first, hoping for a follow-up sale of the US rights to a US publisher, mean that the US public sometimes has to wait a long time before being able to buy a book that’s already available in the rest of the world: like Stephanie Burgis’s The Dragon with a chocolate heart, which has only just been released in the US but was out in Europe half a year ago.
And if no US publisher picks it up, you just don’t get to know about and buy those books in the US. Sometimes that means you miss out on some really good books; IIRC even the Terry Pratchett books weren’t picked up by a US publisher for quite a long time after he became famous in the UK and the rest of the world.
As long as there are paper editions available, that can be ordered in from overseas, that means the books aren’t completely censored in some areas. But with more and more ebook-only books arriving, this can be a real problem, and there’s not much to be done about it except lobbying your copyright-lawmakers; and considering the present state of the US there are more urgent things to lobby them on now.
Hanneke, thank you — and I feel I should’ve known much of that anyway, but I did not. Very helpful!
@bcs – there are only 19 Foreigner books plus two or three other stories in the atevi universe. I’ve lost track of the number of other books, but I believe there are a total of about 60 titles.
Er, yes, my bad. Dunno what I was thinking there. — I see I need to update my list of Foreigner books for Emergence. Ah, what is the next planned title after that, please, @CJ? Thanks.
Bluecatship – in fact as far as print goes, there isn’t a problem, but with bookshelves overcrowded and groaning, kindle is better for the ecology of my house, plus better for my arthritic hands.
There’s an extensive list on goodreads, including foreign language editions but in need of some clean-up (combine the different language editions of one work).
https://www.goodreads.com/author/list/989968.C_J_Cherryh?page=1&per_page=100
What you really mean is the Emergence is going to emerge in January.
Emergence – Bren comes out of the bomb shelter.
Jonathan up here in rainy New Hampshire.
Woohoo!
Somehow Emergence snuck past me. Thought Resurgence was the next one. Even more excited when it popped up on my search this morning