New machine is coming. I get to go through all the hassle of reloading all the software. Ugh. Oh joy, oh rapture. But I’m going to be a little slow communicating through this mess. Current computer state: up and running, but I’m not going to shut her down until the new machine is here. And I have to deal with Win 10. I hates it, I truly hates it.
The old workhorse Latitude Win 7 machine is on its way out…
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We sympathize. Well, I sympathize. The two felines are simply hanging out, one on each side of the makeshift desk, haha. Both are pleased, though they don’t understand the hew-men’s fascination with this thing.
My iMac is happily chugging along, with no apparent difficulties. (Knock on wood and silicon.)
But your post makes me realize I don’t know when I last fired up the now-ancient Win7 laptop. It will need to be charged before I can see if the ancient lug will boot and update. Whee! (I _think_ I did get it setup for this wifi when I moved in. I’ll find out, haha.)
I am, however, loath to buy a new laptop. Win10, do not want! So an update is needed, but a new laptop is not in the offing unless/until I get a periodic boost in my budget. However, I’d rather avoid any big purchase if possible.
Best wishes when you get your new computer in!
The only good thing about Win 10 is that it’s not Win 8 or any variant thereof, which we hatesss it, we doessss. I’m keeping my Win 7 machine (which was bought within a year before the Win 8 rollout as a gaming rig) going as long as possible.
Modernist… WinXP is still my everyday OS (and XP64 on the server). Win7 is barely tolerable; Win10 was designed by sadists unable to distinguish a cellphone from a 27″ monitor. Win10 is why after much testing of linux distros, I settled on PCLinuxOS (with Trinity and KDE desktops) for the “new” frankenputer, and should XP ever become completely nonviable, it’ll be a reluctant goodbye to Windows.
For those who likewise wish to sample such lifeboats without the tedium of a test install, you’ll need a USB flash drive and a copy of Easy2Boot (type the obvious); copy your downloaded linux ISOs to the obvious directory, boot from the USB flash drive, and have fun. I went through ~150 distros before finding one I liked well enough to keep, but I am perhaps overly demanding about the behavior of my OS.
[Now to see if I can actually post; last time I apparently got spamtrapped.]
Off-Topic: I got curious and I’ve been listening to a few Cajun French videos on YouTube. One, I had trouble understanding the speaker. But several others, I’ve had better luck with, and my listening comprehension is better than I thought. Maybe. As with Spanish, I think it depends on the speaker and whether I know the vocabulary. My grammar knowledge seems mostly OK, and this is helping a bit, both for review and for confidence. I’m finding that, for the most part, this is like giving standard French a very country twang between a French and an American twang, with a tendency to do certain things standard (schoolbook) French does not, and a mix of slang and some older words mixed in. So this is _very_ interesting to listen to, fun and informative.
@HRHSpence and @CJ — I don’t know how much you’ve ever encountered Cajun French, but for me as a Texas native who learned French in school as you both did, even so, I do not know nearly enough about Cajun French and culture. So this is really neat.
BCS, Remember, Acadians spoke their own dialect of French when they immigrated to Canada in the 1600’s, and they continued as fairly isolated linguistic communities even after their forced immigration to Louisiana in the 1790’s. So they are not speaking “modern” French, but their own unique Cajun dialect that has its roots in the Acadian dialect of the 17th century.
Plus, when a language is learned by ear over several generations, without being anchored by the written word, it will drift in both pronunciation and enunciation, losing sounds and sometimes whole syllables off the beginnings and ends of words. (“about” becomes “bout”, “just” becomes “jus”, “ask” becomes “ax,” etc.)
You with your school-taught French are in the same boat I was in when I ventured forth with my school-taught Spanish in Juarez and Piedras Negras. However, as I had blond hair then (it’s white now) and (still have) blue eyes, the local Tex Mex speakers accused me of being from Spain because I spoke “pretty Spanish.” Oddly enough, when I was in Barcelona, those same blond hair and blue eyes got me accused of being German (which I partly am).
Win 10: I have my Dell XPS configured to look like Win 7 (hated Win 8). Turn off Cortana, all the touch screen apps, uninstall IE11, ignore Edge and use FireFox or Chrome, turn off defaults for OneDrive, ignore Outlook and use Thunderbird, installed an older version of MS Office which works just fine for what I need and I paid for it long ago. I would use LibreOffice but I don’t care for it.
I upgraded Win8.1 to Win10, and it’s not terrible. Since M$ gave up its smartphone fantasies, it’s actually decent. I think it’s biggest problem is that you have to use File Explorer–just the utility to look at the disk–to find anything. The worst thing, which you don’t have to use, is the stupid tiles menu, which still doesn’t let you customize tile colors. Only M$ programs get special colors; all others are the same color, gold-ish.
@BCS: I use an app called chwazi, which IIRC is Cajun for choose. I use it for board gaming where it’s a great app for choosing the start player randomly. Each person just puts a finger on the smartphone, and chwazi picks one. Ironically, the author had in mind choosing among places to go, like which restaurant to choose; he was very surprised by its adoption by the board gaming community. But, it’s a gem of an app, so easy to use you don’t really need instructions. And it’s free (but vetted by the Google Play store).
Chwazi would be the Haitian Creole (Kreyol) spelling for the verb, btw. If you know that CH is our SH, then that’s exactly what it sounds like, “shwah-ZEE.” The Cajun French verb is probably pronounced the same but spelled choisir like in standard French, because, for the most part, they’re a dialect, like WOL said. Also, due to how the French verb conjugates, most of the present tense forms and a few other tense/mood forms also sound like “shwah-ZEE” plus a few endings. What’s really interesting is how much is unchanged and what has changed, in just two and a half to three centuries; comparable to how much American English and Australian and New Zealander English have diverged from British English.
The other interesting thing going on with this, is that in Louisiana, there are more efforts underway to teach French (and Cajun French and possibly Louisiana Creole) in schools now, reversing the old policy forbidding anything but English. Then down in Haiti, their Creole is sometimes being taught alongside French and English, and encouraged as its own separate language, since it’s a creole. (They have a separate phonetic spelling system unlike French, and enough major differences that it’s really a creole language and not just a dialect.) So these policies mean there’s a chance to keep the local / state / national character and culture going, and to revive it and educate it so it isn’t just an oral tradition, but has a real chance to flourish. That’s good. In the case of Cajun French, increased contact with Canadian French and European French will mean Cajun may tend to take on more standard French features, or it may remain distinct, since there are enough native or partly-fluent speakers to retain the state’s dialect, like Canadian French has its own dialect distinct from (Academy / European) French.
I’m still surprised how much Cajun French I’ve been able to understand, except the one speaker, and if conditions had been better in that video, I might have understood him better too. LOL, but they’d know by my accent I wasn’t a Cajun speaker. They might only guess I’m not a native speaker because I lack a complete vocabulary and some of the cultural details, like anyone who’s had a high school and college education in a language. My accent is good though.
One odd thing about that, when reading in my head from written text, I have this tendency to want to say the endings, which have become silent in spoken French, particularly for the “literary” tenses which are not used anymore in spoken French. (They might still exist over here in Canada and Louisiana in some form.) That’s one of the “weirdest” parts of French to me, that they retain about four tenses in literary form no longer used in spoken form. For the most part, French and Spanish grammar are almost the same, though French does things with avoir and être that Spanish does not, for past and compound tenses, and they use prepositions differently. Otherwise, the grammars are close enough, if you squint a bit.
What I’d seen in Haitian Creole is a lot of simplified French, with a lot of loan-words and some fusion of (apparently African) grammar, so that you get a truly different language that has a lot of French. It’s something like how English is a basically Germanic language that got a ton of French and Latin and a bit of Greek thrown into it. So you end up with something similar in some ways and completely different in others.
All in all, it’s sure interesting, to show how languages can evolve, merge, or split over time.
This also goes to show how, over the few centuries it might take to go from orbital to interplanetary to interstellar, we could get some significant as well as some subtle language changes going on with whatever languages survive (or emerge) with globalization and then spacefaring. I keep thinking now that out in space, there will be a tremendous pressure to develop a creole or lingua franca among spacers and colonists, because they’d all be immigrants and they’d all have to communicate day to day, not just English and Russian and the top ten or twenty other languages, but minority languages would get mixed in too, whoever you had locally. So whatever we end up with in another 500 years or so will be quite different from what we have now. (English is already due for a major stage change into its next stage, but globalization means we’re both delayed and accelerated now towards that, a merger of the US/UK split, maybe along with it.)
Hmm, and I just realized, with ocean levels rising, the displacement of people will also mean that stirs up language change and adjustment, as people move into new areas, or inland with their own people.
So there’s a lot going on!
Yep, Creole not Cajun.
The French have never felt particularly obligated to pronounce all the letters in a word.
Windows 7 here too. My computer guy gets reconditioned Dell desktops and customizes them for friends (better video cards, etc.,) My old Dell’s video card was becoming problematic, so he got me a recon and in addition to transferring my old 500 gig hard drive from my old Dell that already had Windows 7 on it, he added in a 1 Tb hard drive.
I’m, also still running Firefox 56.0.2 because their big security upgrade doesn’t work with NewsFox, which is the platform I use for blog reading. I’ve looked at what’s available as a news reader that works with the Firefox upgrade and none of them can hold a candle to News Fox.
I can kinda empathize. My mouse is moribund (I like one particular kind and they’re hard to get any more) and my keyboard (again, I like one particular kind https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001F51G16/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and it’s hard to come by also, and $$$$) is on its last legs too. I have replacements, but no replacements for the replacements.
I will chant and burn incense in hopes that you have a relatively smooth conversion process.
@WOL, You might want to try 52.8.1esr. It has recent patches from 60.0.
O noes! Paul, your crab-throwing-a-fit is back; yesterday it was still Tux.
Also. (One of my complaints about FF is that more recent versions break plugins that I actually use. Apparently they’re more interested in looking like Chrome.)
You can still continue using Windows 7 on a new machine if you want to.
If you have a valid license key (from your old computer) you can download a free, official, and legal version of Windows 7 from Microsoft and create an installation disk.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows7
You can then simply wipe the disk on your new machine and install Windows 7. Or partition the disk, and install it on a different partition.
Microsoft will continue providing security updates until at least 2020, and probably longer.
Thanks! I can at least give it a look. Don’t know if I’ve got a product key on what was streamed on.
Microsoft used to accept current-OS product keys for ‘downgrading’ to a previous OS. Worth a try.
You can find out the product key of your old computer by using this tiny utility:
https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/product_cd_key_viewer.html
You can also install Windows from the aforementioned Easy2Boot on a USB flash drive. I no longer burn install media (and it’s so handy to have ~50 install ISOs on a single flash drive).
http://www.easy2boot.com/
Actually the words “simply wipe the disk on your new machine” fill my heart with dread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t85M9NoHDIo
If this link works it may put the whole issue in perspective. This version is King’s Singers but it is by the comic poet Les Barker. It was originally referring to ME not XP, which makes more sense. I get quite nostalgic about XP.
No one hate Win8/Win10 more than I. Hate to the googleplex power. I have a legal OEM copy of Win7. The problem is that new hardware is designed to break the OS if you use Win7. Hardware manufacturers no longer produce the essential drivers for Win7. Things like keyboard drivers, etc. When I build desktops from scratch, I make sure that the motherboard manufacturer still distributes drivers for all the motherboard functions. And I have to do the same with video cards, wireless cards, etc. I suspect Microsoft of refusing to sell any version of Windows to hardware manufacturers other than Win8/Win10 (depending on the time period). I was specifically told by HP tech that my Windows 8 laptop would not function under Win7. Regretfully, my business requires dependence on laptops. One critical thing I recently learned after turning off any access to any personal info to places other than my machine is that you can’t delete Cortana and it stays there listening and recording. But there is a simple way to write a new Registry entry that will keep if from doing anything with its data.
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Pluses of Windows 10? It’s not Windows 8. (Or Vista).
Minuses? It’s not Windows 3.1, or Windows 98, or XP, or Windows 7. I would still be running XP if it were supported by Microsoft, but when they stopped doing so they also stopped selling new machines with Windows 7. I flatly refused to buy the first version of Windows 8 – 8.1 was slightly better – but 10 (despite the dreaded Word update) can be made to work. Maybe Microsoft will do a retro version next? (hint, hint).
Contrary to popular wisdom about “support” and “security patches”:
The patch system itself IS the vulnerability. How do you suppose the bad hackers discover vulnerabilities to exploit? They’re not rocket scientists and they don’t have Windows source code to examine — so they find weaknesses by downloading and reverse-engineering the security patches (which tells them exactly where to attack unpatched systems).
This is why once “support” ends, suddenly there are few or no new vulnerabilities discovered for that “unsupported” OS, and if you’re up to date when official support ends, you’re just as safe (possibly more so) as on the new “supported” OS. And attacks designed for later OSs generally won’t work on your old OS.
Fascinating. And logical.
I don’t mind Win10, but it has the atrocious manners to update when and as it pleases without a by-your-leave. And each update, M$ removes more of my ability wait until I’m ready to download and install.
If you need, you can find instructions for how to block the updates here: https://www.computerworld.com/article/3232632/microsoft-windows/how-to-block-windows-10-april-2018-update-from-installing.html
Well, you can tell Windows not to update automatically. I usually like to wait a few days in case they’ve flubbed the release, which has happened. But, last update, I atypically chose for Win10 to update then power off the computer; I usually hibernate so it come up faster. (I don’t consider standby safe from power outages.)
When I turned the computer back on, Win10 took an hour–literally–finishing the update that was supposed to be done before it powered off.
The problem with Office is the Active-X stuff a huge security hole. I’ve stopped using it.
You can…if you’re on Win10 Pro, which I’m not…and 3 times in the last 4 or 5 months MS “forgot” to honour the Pro/business/enterprise “don’t install yet” setting and cheesed off a whole bunch of enterprise IT folks.
I have the “metered connection” setting selected (which is technically true – only have a certain amount of GB to download each month before my connection reduces to snail speeds), which prevents a lot of stuff installing without telling me, but it’s not foolproof, because it includes a clause “If we think the patch is super important we can install it anyway”.
Oh, and the Office security holes are about to get worse.
https://www.computerworld.com/article/3271436/microsoft-windows/two-more-evolving-threats-javascript-in-excel-and-payment-processing-in-outlook.html
I’m just on ordinary Win10.
You have my sympathies and condolences regarding Windows 10.
One must wonder how totally messed up Microsoft has become to sustain the idea of globally bricking all of their customers computers every month and ignoring the devastation each update inevitably brings. Each time it happens, I have to uninstall the updates to allow my graphics-intensive software to work properly again at home. At work, I’m protected from Microsoft’s malevolent policies, but I’m in the wild at home. I’ve tried all of the posted procedures for killing updates, but they keep happening anyway.
Linux is certainly not an attractive solution, but Windows 10 frustration is pushing me closer.
I hope that you have a much better experience.
I use TurboTax annually and they keep upgrading their Windows dependency. Last year I bought a little $90 HP refurb from Fry’s for just that purpose. (I’ve seen others like this at medical offices.)
Coincidentally I just completed building “Paul’s Own [Linux] Distro”, POD, version 8.0, from scratch. It has been a “background job” since late January. I tend to get the most work done on it when PBS takes a Pledge Break. I’m using it right now, for an extended testing. Building was about as glitchy as normal, but as built it is one of my smoother versions, accumulating the benefit of prior work.
What’s worse than going to a new software version? Having to help students with it BEFORE it’s available on personal equipment. My last Apple was a Lisa (precursor to a MAC), yet I can still help my students (a little). My laptop is a newer Latitude running Windows 8, and I’m hoping it will accept the 10 this August. Browsers give me the most problems – my LMS likes Chrome, but the college email prefers Mozilla, and NOTHING likes Edge, although my students try to use it. I actually had a nontraditional student try to use the LMS via Ask.com (a total disaster).
This past April on a field trip to Jackson Square, NO, a couple from Reims, France came up to ask directions. They had no English, were lost, and confused about a river appearing to go north (which it is at that spot). Their map was in French. I had some 45YO German, and they had a little, so I was able to direct them to the “famous breakfast restaurant” (Cafe DuMonde).
They were pretty upset that more people weren’t speaking French. Eventually they came back with their English speaking friend, and I explained that this was the wrong area of Louisiana – they needed the Arcadian parishes. Occasionally I hear Cajun French spoken in the college cafeteria, but I’ve never heard Creole French.
I used to live next door to a Cajun trucker. It was interesting. The bobtail rig was usually parked on the incomplete side street, and they threw parties with many attendees. One day (call him Andy) decided to build a fireplace at the rear of his house. And he called all his friends in. I objected to little, but when he pulled a truck loaded with brick between our houses and atop my sewer line, I did have a restrained word, and he was still sober enough to agree to move the truck real soon. They offloaded it, amid more beer, they got the truck off my sewer pipe, and they mixed up some mortar and started building. By dawn the work stood proud and tall in blond brick, with a large initial mortared in, of broken flue tile. And it spiraled. It must have started as somebody offsetting a brick, and then the offset got worse. But there it stood, and stands, I’m sure, to this day. He was a decent guy, Andy was, and I gave him a lot of fruit off my trees for his wine-making, and he would mostly regard my pleas not to fix cars on my side of the property line, but when I mowed near the line, my lawnmower shot bolts out like rifle bullets. Still, if you needed help, Andy was there. He was Mr. Fixit to the neighborhood, and just a general good guy, and one of the reasons the neighborhood was as good as it was, despite the neighbors across the street. I had forgotten all this, and now I wonder whatever became of him and his crew. You ask where do writers get their ideas? 😉
Side discharge mowers go to one side only, so’s if you went the right direction it would give his lost nuts and bolts back to him.
Oh, indeed I did, right back to his driveway. But we were never angry neighbors. Just—neighbors.
I went someplace else and it unexpectedly turned up with the right Gravatar. Seems maybe I’ll have to ask to have my account here purged and reregister to get it back here. 8-(
…Which leads me to an inevitable question and bad pun:
Essayez-vous un bon vin blanc ou rouge ou rosé en fait par Andy?
Uh-oh, which leads me to think, surely I didn’t just get the past particle wrong for faire. Pretty sure I’m not that badly rusty. Hope to goodness I’m not that rusty, but it tells me I need to review again.
But also, I just realized, my old training on proper French and Spanish etiquette for tu vs. vous is kicking in: I don’t know you in person, even though we’re acquainted for some time, and also due to the respect factor, I automatically kicked in with the vous form instead of tu. So…did I just err the wrong way by using vous, since we’ve been acquainted a while? CJ, my apologies either way! If we’d met in person, then I’d probably already assume the tu form.
I loved the story, though. Andy sounds like a good guy, colorful, but haha, good deal. — Around here, the parties have been less this spring and summer. I don’t know if it’s more aftermath from Harvey or else anxieties due to current national news, but I didn’t mind that people were out having a good time last year; it wasn’t usually truly a disturbance, kinda mild, and a sign of a healthy bunch of neighbors, I think. (What do I know, I grew up in a family and neighborhood that hardly knew what the words “carousing” or “partying” meant. I suspect I would not be a very good carousing spacer on leave in port, haha. (Er, this could also help explain why I’m still single, perhaps.)
— Those poor confused and disappointed Reims tourists! — A peculiarity of Houston is that it is still legal for people to keep horses within the city limits, in appropriate facilities, and it’s still legal therefore, for people to ride them along the streets. This is, however, very, very rare in recent times, except for one time of the year, right around the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo. (Here in Texas, “rodeo” in English gets mispronounced in Spanish as “ROH-dee-oh” instead of proper Spanish “rrrroh-DEH-oh.) People wil, specifically by tradition, as well as working cowboys, come in on trail rides, on horseback or covered wagon teams or with modern campers, some echoing the Old West, some sort of in between then and now, and they ride into town and make camp in Hermann Park downtown. This is a huge thing every year, even though most people are now more into urban life and other music besides country and western and bluegrass. So every year around rodeo time, tourists and new residents are astonished by real, live horse riders, chuck wagons, etc. moseying in along the highways. But this is expected and people make accommodations; it’s genuinely important to the farmers and ranchers in our state and neighboring states. You can still see exhibits where hopeful middle and high school kids have Brought in their prize livestock (you name it, they’ve got it) for a chance at a very good scholarship and sale price, or at least a good sale. City folks who’ve never seen such things can see the animals and the people, real working farmers and cowboys, as well as local kids from the suburbs who are in 4H and/or FFA. Local business people bid on the livestock at auction and fund those kids’ (and adults) and the judges dole out the scholarships. Besides this, there’s barbecue cookouts, big-name live band performances (these days, nearly any music genre, though still heavy on Anglo and Texan and other Latino music).
Back when I was either a senior in high school or early in college, I went one night, and was surprised and intrigued to hear what may have been Louisiana Creole rather than Cajun (Adadien), because some of the basic verbs and terms the couple and their friends were using. I was too far away, and not yet the kind to have struck up a hello at that distance back then, but it was sure intriguing, hearing a few words here and there, noting complete from their conversation just having out, and wondering what they were saying and what those words really were, since they were changed sufficiently that I didn’t recognize much of what I did hear. But the English and the Creole or French they were using were definitely deep country Louisiana infused, and they were having a good time with everyone else. (One of the acts that night was Alabama, the band, and gosh, it’s been too long ago for me to be sure who else was playing, but one other well-known group and a smaller act, and before and after, there were usual rodeo events, with rodeo clowns helping to ensure safety.
By the way, our heavy rains this past week tested out how repairs after Harvey have been going, raising local concerns about water drainage and further safety and home/business damage from flooding or if we get a tropical storm or hurricane this year. — After last year’s hurricane season, I don’t know what to expect, and I’m a native Houstonian who’s seen multiple hurricanes and tropical storms come through. Last year was just baffling. — Here’s hoping our neighbors along the Gulf Coast and in the Caribbean don’t get hammered again. The thing is, someone gets it each year at random, somewhere along the coast, but usually, it’s only a handful of places that get something major, per season. — This also means that there is a regular movement of people around the coast, who pick up from one town and move to another to start over. For instance, that feeds a mix of people along Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, all along to Florida, so that culture, food and music, and dialect, get intermingled every so often after a major storm. — This is something I think we tend to forget about history, such as along the Mediterranean, for instance. They would’ve had similar things going on in antiquity and medieval times, and still do somewhat today, although for the most part, the Med is quieter than the Gulf Coast.
Try looking in on ‘Paniolo Days’, which is an annual event up in Makawao, about a third of the way up Haleakala. Paniolo is Hawaiian for cowboy, having been corrupted from the Spanish via the Mexicans who moved here over a century ago to help with herding cattle et. al. There are still 2 or 3 major ranches on Maui, plus a number of smaller outfits, and every year during the summer they get together and show how it’s done, island style. You also get only-in-Hawaii events, like the pa’u riders, where women don flowing beautiful dresses and show off their horses and riding skills.
BCS, your French is ok, but you’d have to pronounce the guy’s name “Andé” to get the rhyme to work.😎
Aw, heck, I should’ve thought of rhyming it too! Thanks, Spence!
Chondrite, that reminds me, I’m sure I’ve seen one instance, at least, of Hawaiian cowboys in what may have been a 60’s era movie. I think it was a historical movie rather than the one or two Elvis movies in Hawaii. Gosh, hadn’t thought of that in a while.
As usual, I cringe – from my iMac.
CJ, what character(s) has Andy morphed into?
Heh. A few security guards. One of the more notable encounters—my house had open prairie behind and to the left of front, grassy land going to forest…and it could get lonely out there. So something was moving around out there one night, and I took my trusty pistol in my robe pocket and went out to see what it was. Met Andy coming around the corner—we scared the daylights out of each other. I don’t know if he was armed (ex-cop), and I dunno if he knew I was, but we didn’t make any stupid mistake, at least. We never did find out what it was that had raised a ruckus, but it didn’t do it again.
Aha! So certain starship officers with licensed concealed-carry out on docks…. And a lady not to be messed with, packing a pistol in her robe. 😀 I like it. Just ’cause a woman’s in big fuzzy slippers, a housecoat, and optional curlers and bobby pins, is not reason to underestimate her fighting spirit. Much like certain pioneer women or medieval ladies in those improbable dresses. 😀
Hah, and Andy sounds like quite a guy. I’m getting the impression of tall and burly, though perhaps of the former football jock, now with a moderate bit of extra padding, yet skin mostly muscle. Hmm, or perhaps that’s just my imagination going. Shorter? Heavy or stocky? — Just appreciating that he’s on your side. 🙂
Funny, somehow over the weekend, I was reminded of an actor who played a very Southern cop, big guy, low voice, the general build I was just describing. The actor who played one of the police officers on the TV series version of In the Heat of the Night, 1980’s, I think, in which Carol O’Connor had the starring role that had been played in the movie by Rod Steiger. Somehow, the description of Andy earlier brought that actor to mind. (Yeah, my brain works in strange ways, lol.)